The Five Guys Post: if you gain weight reading this, it will be worth it

I wasn't hungry. Just woke up, in fact, and I'm never hungry right when I wake up. Then I decided to do this blog post about Five Guys Burgers and Fries. Now I'm hungry.

The particular Five Guys I'm talking about is at 119th and Blackbob in Olathe, about 10 minutes from where I sleep, which just makes me incredibly happy. There's also one in Lee's Summit, and Randy Brock, one of the men about to get rich off my terrible eating habits, says they have plans for 10-12 more at a pace of 2-3 per year.

I went there for lunch on Friday with my friend Jeff Passan, who shares my love for a good burger and fries, and, non coincidentally, my love for In-N-Out. Both qualities were key here.

The first thing we noticed when we walked in is it's a clean store, and very busy. The menu's pretty simple, just the way it should be. You can get a burger. You can get fries. If you're feeling fiesty, you can get a hot dog. If you're not that hungry, you can get a "little burger," which as far as I can tell is just a single burger (order a regular burger and you get a double).

I'm a toppings guy, so Five Guys is exploiting a weakness here. You can choose between 15 toppings, all free, and they include sauteed mushrooms, fried onions, BBQ sauce, hot sauce, even A-1 as well as the standard lettuce-pickles-onions-tomatoes stuff.

They told me the wait would be 7-8 minutes after I ordered, but no way. Had to be three minutes, tops. Would've been worth a much longer wait.

They are not stingy with their fries, that's for sure. Randy told me he sometimes gets a large order of their cajun fries (I'm trying those tomorrow, just got the regulars on Friday) for lunch, and that's it.

In-N-Out will never expand to Kansas City, so the comparisons are irrelevant, but they're also unavoidable because they are the only ones playing in the elite burger-and-fry league. Please don't mention Winstead's. I love Winstead's, but that place is now Outback to Five Guys' Plaza III (at Wendy's prices).

Anyway, the fries are great. WAY better than In-N-Out, not even close. Thick, hot, got a lot of flavor. I prefer a waffle fry, but these get it done.

The main event, the burger, is worth the trip and then some. Big, perfectly messy, not too much bun, and cooked with everything on it you want.

Honestly, I still have it a very close second place to In-N-Out, but it's incredibly close, and I can see where reasonable people would disagree on it. Here's Passan's take:

"In the annals of fast-food burgers, it's a very close second to In-N-Out, and coming from someone who once ordered a Quadruple-Quadruple, that is high praise. What Five Guys has going for it: superior fries, an excellent array of toppings and a tolerable wait time. Missing, though, is the absolute perfection of hamburger that In-N-Out somehow achieves even though it's well-done and the size of a couple DVDs. If they told me the secret ingredient was heroin, I wouldn't be surprised -- and I'd probably still go back for seconds."

Also, Randy was nice enough to answer some questions over e-mail about his wonderful place. He says the hot dogs are a hidden gem on the menu. I have no reason not to believe him, but I just can't imagine myself ever going away from the burgers.

Ball Star: OK, first, congrats on making the best fast food burgers in Kansas City. Yep. Better than Winstead's. Full disclosure, I still have you guys slightly behind In-N-Out, but it's very close. What should people know about your place?

Randy: Thanks for the compliment that we are better than Winstead's. Winstead's is a KC tradition but a totally different burger than ours. I like Winstead's....but love our burgers.

In-N-Out burgers are very good and in my opinion the only other burger that compares to ours. A lot of similarities exist between Five Guys and In-N-Out: both use only fresh meat (never frozen), fresh buns and condiments, remain family owned and have menus that are essentially unchanged since their origination.

I think a big difference is that our fries are much better (and we give more of them)!! So we offer the whole package: hitting for power and on-base percentage (hey this is Ball Star right?).

Ball Star: My buddy Kevin Kaduk went to a Five Guys in Florida during spring training, he said they put an onion ring on his burger. I got no such onion ring. Is this part of a secret menu, like the one at In-N-Out? Or are you guys holding out on me?

Randy: Not sure about your buddy's onion ring experience in Florida. Are you sure he wasn't drunk and at an A&W? It's not part of our menu or free toppings choices. So we aren't holding out on you. We do have some special Five Guys "magic" we work on the burgers. I could tell you but then I would have to kill you and you wouldn't be able try our cajun fries the next time you come in! (Ball Star note: Randy's right. My bad. Kaduk was raving about the fried onion, not onion ring. My mind gets mushy when I think about food.)

Ball Star: You asked earlier for suggestions if I could think of a way to improve. Three words: late night delivery. You guys would own the town in no time.

Randy: Great idea....I'll look in to it and make sure the Ball Star World Headquarters is in our delivery radius!!

Submitted by Sam Mellinger on April 22, 2008 - 7:35am.
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Submitted by StevoRhino on July 26, 2008 - 9:30am.

Those who have had all of the burgers mentioned, how does Culver's compare to the ones here?

Just curious.

WWDMD?

Submitted by hammy on July 25, 2008 - 11:42am.

I love 5 Guys, but it is not as good as Flea Market. And Sam, for you to write this post without having been to Westport Flea Market is blasphemy.

Submitted by KUchick on May 15, 2008 - 11:40am.

Five Guys, while excellent, is not even in the same ballpark as In N Out. Don't get me wrong, it's a tasty burger, but I did a direct comparison the other day, ordering my burger the exact same as I do at INO, and Five Guys can't hold a candle to my beloved INO. Maybe my expectations were too high going in, but I was thinking I'd be blown away, but I certainly was not. I'm not sure the people who saying the two are equals have had INO enough to make a good comparison.

Submitted by Sam Mellinger on May 15, 2008 - 11:56am.

You gotta let Five Guys be its own burger. Can't just make it be like In-N-Out and order it the same.

Let 5G be 5G.

Submitted by lincolncar on April 24, 2008 - 4:14pm.

GREAT spot. In the meantime I'll keep driving way too far out of my way (still worth it) But believe me, the incremental increase in my Five Guys intake at the Liberty store will easily pay for your rent.

Submitted by cbbjr on April 23, 2008 - 4:31pm.

Haven't been to any of the KC locations so I can't say for sure, but the amazing thing is that Five Guys seemed to be better several years ago when it was only in the DC area. Now that they have focused on franchising as fast as they can the burgers have slipped a little, but they are still far better than most.

Submitted by collinincalifornia on April 23, 2008 - 1:03pm.

i'll certainly have to try Five Guys when i come back b/c i'm already salivating. But it sounds like The Counter... the best burger and fries in Southern California -- pricier than In N Out, but it's worth it b/c of the 'build your own' options.
http://www.thecounterburger.com/

Submitted by jtuck123 on April 23, 2008 - 6:22am.

(Five Guys Montage playing in the background...)"Five Guys...so delicious...huge double bacon cheeseburger with lettuce...grilled onions...ketchup...large fries...without cajun seasoning...warm and fuzzy feeling...dream about Five Guys...too bad the name isn't Five Girls...so much food...can't...eat...it...all...(Five Guys Montage has left the building)
JT

Submitted by Sam Mellinger on April 23, 2008 - 1:49pm.

Got the call from Mrs Ball Star about the car being broke in the middle of a delicious lunch at Five Guys today.

Of course, had to go, right away, pick her up and show off my ability to diagnose and fix car problems, which basically consists of turning the key, listening to the engine grumble, waiting for it to die, and then calling a tow truck.

So, anyway, back to the lunch. I apologize to my dad, who met me, and pack up my burger and cajun fries in a brown paper bag soaked in delicious grease and head for the car, where I'd have to finish lunch.

Let's just say that Five Guys is not the kind of meal you want to eat in the car. There are now grilled onions and mushrooms and french fries all over my car.

This is the worst thing I can say about Five Guys. It's a one-dimensional meal. Gotta eat it stationary.

This is all.

Submitted by CHL on April 22, 2008 - 8:10pm.

The best burgers are indeed at Fric'n'Frac and Westport Flea Market, but neither would qualify as "fast food". And just to allay your fears, the Flea Market is not closing and is not going to be replaced by a Hooter's.

Submitted by lincolncar on April 22, 2008 - 4:26pm.

Randy, we need a Five Guys for us Northlanders (specifically Liberty).

Submitted by fiveguyskc on April 22, 2008 - 7:13pm.

FiveGuysofKansasCity

Lincolncar, we are looking at space in the Liberty "triangle". We'll get there sooner than later. In the meantime, come visit us in Olathe or Lee's Summit if you get out that way.

Randy

Submitted by Chimpotle on April 22, 2008 - 2:30pm.

I ate at 5 Guys twice in the same day this weekend. Love the topping options, especially jalapenos. Awesome burgers.

Frankly, I didn't care much for the fries. It might be because we got the bottom of the basket or something. All of them were little over-salted nubbins. They are generous with the portion they give you. Heaven forbid you get it to go and accidentally let the bottom of the fry covered bag touch your clothes. Had the cajun ones the second time, and they were a bit better. I'm a crinkle cut kind of guy.

Submitted by CMLachky on April 22, 2008 - 9:23am.

Man,

I moved to Iowa from KC two years ago, and you guys are killing me with the cuisine talk. People over here think Famous Dave's is the top Barbeque in the land. Please.

What's also killing me is the fact that I was IN O-Town this past weekend, and while looking for a place to eat on Sunday, I drove RIGHT past Five Guys. I instead chose the "Asian Fusion" fancy-pants resturaunt next door...big mistake. Instead of gorging myself on opiate-laced cookery, I was chewing on Kung Pao shrimp that tasted like it came fresh out of Lake Jacomo.

Now, Winsteads will always hold a special place in my heart, just because of the history, and it's a tall order when you go up against the Flea Market, but Five Guys is on the menu the next time I roll down 35.

(Also heard a nasty rumor that their replacing the Flea Market with a Hooters...any truth to this blasphemy?? I mean, clevage is clevage, but c'mon...at the expense of the Flea Market?!?!?!?)

Submitted by Sam Mellinger on April 22, 2008 - 9:34am.

....the Flea Market burger, but I'd put Five Guys comfortably ahead of Fric n Frac, which is also delicious. Town Topic should also be mentioned, but that's more of a 3 am place that can make a man feel gross the next day.

In other news, I tried that Asian fusion place last week with the wifey, and I really liked it. Had the black pepper crusted beef and thought it was outstanding.

Your last line got me too, nice job.

Submitted by dreadpirate82 on April 22, 2008 - 9:05am.

Having eaten at Five Guys twice in its first week, I'm willing to put their burger somewhere in the city's top five. Probably third. Westport Flea Market is a close second to the king of them all: Fric n Frac. The only better burger I've eaten was at Earnestine & Hazel's in Memphis.

Submitted by bangoskank on April 22, 2008 - 8:14am.

You've obviously never had a Westport Flea Market burger...

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