David DeJesus is a fine defensive left fielder. Fine defensive left fielders don't win Gold Gloves

David DeJesus is a fine defensive left fielder. Fine defensive left fielders don't win Gold Gloves

Well, look. I understand the hometeam's broadcast will tilt toward PR for the hometeam. There are a number of reasons, including the one Frank White has mentioned a few times: "We have to get on the plane with these guys."

But are we really to the point where we're going to push David DeJesus for a Gold Glove?

There are any number of reasons this is silly, starting with the fact left fielders don't win Gold Gloves, and especially not left fielders who are moved there because they're not good enough to play center field.

Also, there's the fact that DeJesus -- while a fine defensive player -- isn't even close to being the best left fielder in the American League.

We can do this by looking at the rest of the league: Carl Crawford is the best left fielder in the game, has been for a really long time, and has NEVER won a Gold Glove.

We can do this by UZR: he is eighth in UZR/150 among AL outfielders, and third (behind Crawford and Juan Rivera) among six qualifying left fielders.

We can do this by Plus/Minus*: he is not among the top 11 left fielders (Crawford leads at +28, while four players, including Josh Anderson, are tied for 8th with +8).

* Among my favorite numbers: Coco Crisp, who last played June 12, and even then severely injured, STILL grades out as the game's sixth-best center fielder. I pointed this out to Coco not too long ago, he was a bit surprised, thought about it for a second, then said, "And I was terrible."

We can do this by a scout's eye: "He's solid there, nothing spectacular," said one scout who sees the Royals often.

Hopefully this doesn't come across as picking on the broadcast. That's not how it's intended. We're set for game No. 133 in a miserable season, and that's a lot of air to fill, and there's only so much you can make fun of Oakland.

This could be context. When you're watching the worst defensive team in the American League, even a slightly above average defensive player can look like Ozzie Smith. When you're eating bologna every day, even a ham sandwich can taste pretty good.

I could be guilty of that when judging Billy Butler.

But, you know, maybe the problem's entirely on my end.

Because despite everything you just read, and everything else that's in my head, at last check DeJesus had more than 50 percent of the vote on last night's telecast as the Royals' best defensive outfielder in the last decade.

Submitted by Sam Mellinger on September 2, 2009 - 8:40am.
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Submitted by Lawkan on September 3, 2009 - 8:16pm.

The Gold Glove is supposed to go to the best defender but time after time the guys that win it had a huge year at the plate. Otherwise they tend to just give it to the same guys over and over. Palmeiro won the Gold Glove for first base despite DHing almost the whole season. Greg Maddux won like 16 in a row. That pretty much tells you how legitamate the award is.

Submitted by KCBP on September 3, 2009 - 12:27pm.

The gold glove award is not given to guys that hit well, it is a defensive award. It is given to guys who play their positions well and showcase good defensive plays and this season DJ has done that. He is certainly a candidate to win a gold glove this season, and probably should.

Submitted by brenth on September 3, 2009 - 8:48am.

Yaz has 7 GGs as a LFer. Barroid has 8.

As for other corner outfielders, Clemente and Kaline have 22 GGs between them.

Submitted by Lawkan on September 3, 2009 - 7:34am.

I hope they dont bring back those stupid text polls next year. They are pointless and take up way too much of the broadcast.

As far as Gold Gloves go as often as not the winners do not deserve them. Whether it be Harold Reynolds, Rafael Palmeiro, Jeter, or Michael Young the real reason Dejesus won't win is he doesn't hit well enough.

Submitted by royalbluefan on September 2, 2009 - 5:27pm.

"Nobody, I mean nobody F#### with DeJesus."

We've been chanting that every time he steps to the plate for years.

Submitted by KCBP on September 2, 2009 - 12:22pm.

DJ has ten outfield assists and hasn't committed any errors while playing very well in left field this season. The way he's played he is certainly a candidate to win a gold glove this season.

Submitted by RBTGT3 on September 2, 2009 - 11:56am.

....are dangerously close to becoming out and out PR shills for the Royals. They make entirely too many excuses for this collection of cruds otherwise known as the Royals. The notion that DeJesus is a gold glove outfielder makes me laugh every time I hear it and I have to think that Frank White knows better, or, he is so blinded by the overwhelming mediocrity of this team (and that's being complimentary!) that he can't see the forest for the trees. The only player on this team that could arguably lay claim to a gold glove is Zack Greinke.

Whoever's bright idea this is about Dejesus must be the same person who, right before the All Star break, on the Royals web site, authored up the countdown to subs being selected for the All Star game on the home page and opined about whether Miguel Olivo would be named a sub or not! Like he was in any danger of this, particularly since Miguel Olivo, in my estimation, is not even a major league player and is just one of the players who epitomizes what is wrong with this team.

Submitted by mfrevert on September 2, 2009 - 3:30pm.

Speaking of announcers, what about Ryan's "man-crush" on Teahen. Unfortunately, I think it's rubbing off on Frank too.

I guess I can appreciate the announcers wanting and needing some inside information on the players, and maybe even wanting to be "one of the guys". But jeez.. last night as Ryan was talking about the Teahen boys' backyard wiffleball games, it was starting to come across as borderline stalker material. Seriously, come on Ryan.

Submitted by bobtelos on September 2, 2009 - 11:31am.

corner outfielder's shouldn't win Gold Gloves.

Of course, one of the 2 worst GMs in baseball shouldn't get a contract extension through 2014, so maybe Frank had a different perspective on it.

Also, DDJ probably isn't the best defensive CF of the decade. And I you've no-so-subtley hinted beofre that you aren't a fan of his "attitude." I guess he just isn't a "winner" like past Mellinger paramours Jose Guillen and Willie Bloomquist.

Still... DDJ was a good CF when he was younger. Age does thing to a guy. But his UZR/150 was 19.9 and 19.6 in 2006, which is about 8 runs higher than the highest UZR/150 either Beltran or Damon has ever put up in the "FanGraphs era" (2002-2008). Of course, 2002- is a decline phase for Damon, and defenisvlely probably for Beltran, too, as defense generally peaks very early.

Career UZR/150 in CF:

Damon: -9.2
Beltran: 3.9
DDJ: 4.6

Now, I think Beltran was clearly better in his prime than DDJ, but to simply treat the viewers as if they were idiots... well, maybe they thought the Guillen deal was "great," too, during the 6 weeks he actually looked like a major league baseball player last summer.

As for using extermely small sample defensive numbers for Josh "Gathwhite" Anderson... well, I guess UZR/150 doesn't figure in that he's a former Brave.

But way to trash the Royals best position player this season. Maybe he can win you over with an f-bomb laced tirade.

If Dayton Moore ever gets a clue and trades DeJesus for younger players who might actually help the next winning team the Royals have (probably after 2014), maybe DDJ will actually find a team and a local media that will appreciate him for what he does do (get on-base, hit doubles, play good OF defense), and rather than for what he doesn't (steal bases, hit home runs, throw temper tantrums).

Submitted by curtisruder on September 2, 2009 - 10:27am.

I can think of at least three times when the results of those text surveys on the telecast were so wrong as to be completely laughable -

last night. Beltran is so clearly the best outfielder for the Royals in the last ten years, it isn't even a question. Range, arm, bat. Dye may have had a better arm, but had nowhere close to the range and wasn't as good a hitter. Damon had similar range, but his arm is Bad News Bears like. And Dejesus shouldn't be in the conversation.

A few weeks ago they asked about the best closer in the AL Central. And I can understand Soria winning it - it is a poll of Royals fans, after all, and he has the second best case. But there is no way that Joe Nathan shouldn't at least come in second, even in a poll of Royals fans. Any vote for one of the other guys was just flat silly.

And then they had a question about which Mariners acquisition had most helped the Royals. I thought it had to be a unanimous vote for Meche, except for a couple of troublemakers sending in Yuni just for fun. And Gil didn't even win, but instead more people voted for Bloomquist.

Those surveys aren't with the pixels needed to display them.

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