Eric Hosmer, Scott Boras, and the Royals' quest to get better

In another world from here, in Farmington, N.M., Eric Hosmer is living out an amateur career that's pretty close to perfect.

He plays for the Midland Redskins, a baseball powerhouse that's the amateur equivalent of the New York Yankees, only if the Yankees had a little bit better history.

According to the team's website, 48 eventual big leaguers played for Midland, including Barry Larkin, Ken Griffey Jr., and Nate McLouth.

"Eric Hosmer," Joe Hayden, the club's manager, said, "in my opinion, is potentially every bit as good as any ballplayer we've ever had."

The Royals, of course, selected Hosmer third overall in the June draft.

Their scouts and executives are excited about the potential there. Hosmer is regarded by many as having the most superstar potential of any high school bat in the draft. Several teams had him first overall on their draft boards.

All that excitement comes with a bit of a disclaimer, though, in that he's still unsigned. The deadline is one week from today.

Top pick Tim Beckham, a high school shortstop from Georgia, signed with the Rays for a $6.15 million bonus. The next-highest pick to sign is Kyle Skipworth, a high school catcher from California taken sixth by the Marlins, for $2.3 million.

Last year's No. 3 pick, Josh Vitters, a high school third baseman from California, signed with the Cubs for $3.2 million. The Royals signed No. 2 overall pick Mike Moustakas for $4 million in a deal that wasn't completed until just minutes before the midnight deadline.

We bring all this up because signing Hosmer is not a forgone conclusion. There were reports before the draft that Hosmer and his advisor, superagent Scott Boras, were looking for a bonus in the neighborhood of $7 million to skip out on his scholarship at Arizona State.

It's hard to tell how valid those reports were, or where those figures came from. It's probably a little bit of posturing, but it's also safe to say Hosmer won't come cheap or easy.

Boras' reputation is widely known, and in some ways unfair, but the fact remains he's the guy many teams want to deal with the least.

The Royals have had good luck recently, drafting and signing Boras guys the last two years -- Moustakas last year, and Luke Hochevar, first overall, for a $5.3 million guarantee in 2006.

If you're a glass half-empty kind of fan, there is more reason for skepticism this year.

Hochevar's leverage was lessened to a degree after being drafted by the Dodgers the year before and sitting out. Then last year, it was apparent that Moustakas wanted nothing to do with college and was aching to get his pro career started ASAP.

I spent a couple days with him before he signed in suburban LA, where he's from, and got the feeling that Moose would've been perfectly happy signing for far less than the No. 2 overall pick can command.

There's a little bit of a different feeling around Hosmer, who some think might be more willing to play college ball. Boras has always been a proponent of guys going to college. Some think that's just a negotiating position, and maybe it is to an extent, but I also think he believes it.

There's also the safety net that the Royals have built for themselves with fourth-round pick Tim Melville. A high school pitcher from suburban St. Louis, Melville is considered by many a first-round talent who slid mostly because of signability questions.

In a stark contrast to recent history (and another sign that this organization is moving in the right direction), the Royals took a chance on Melville and all signs are that a deal will be announced before the deadline.

If Hosmer went unsigned, the Royals would still get a first-round caliber talent out of this draft, plus have a compensation pick next year (either fourth or fifth, depending on if the Pirates sign No. 2 overall pick Pedro Alvarez), so it's not an absolute do-or-die.

If you're a glass half-full kind of fan, there are some important reasons to believe the deal will get done, too.

Hosmer is playing for the Redskins this summer against Boras' wishes, and maybe that's just out of loyalty to his friends and coaches there, but it also shows a willingness to make his own decisions.

Either way, the more important thing here is that it makes too much sense for all sides.

The Royals' system is in desperate need of improvement, especially with impact bats, and they don't get any better by not signing Hosmer.

You also wonder how it'd look in baseball circles if the Royals, in the midst of a franchise makeover, can't sign their top overall pick. Some would surely applaud them for not giving in, but it's easy to imagine players and agents holding it against them.

From Hosmer's perspective, it's hard to improve much on being the third overall pick. He's guaranteed millions right now and the opportunity to get his pro career started immediately.

No matter what kind of potential Boras sees in going to college (and Boras has been successful in the past steering guys away from signing what he thinks are low deals) there is always the possibility of injury or even having a terrific college career that just doesn't warrant being the No. 3 pick in three years.

If you were guaranteed $4 million now (or more), would you gamble on turning that into $6 million if there was also the chance it would become $1 million? Or less?

There's also a remote chance that the CBA could be renegotiated to include a slotting system by the time Hosmer would be eligible again for the draft.

And from Boras' perspective, he doesn't need one more reason for people to view him as baseball's lord of darkness. He is the best in the business at getting top dollar for his clients, but his stature in the eyes of some has fallen a bit in recent years as he's been dumped by some key clients and blamed (fairly or not) for Manny Ramirez's ugly breakup with the Red Sox.

If he steered an 18-year-old kid away from a multimillion dollar payday, it'd be one more thing on the list.

If that happens, Boras better be right about Hosmer having more earning potential on the back end ... though is track record in such matters is pretty good.

Submitted by Sam Mellinger on August 8, 2008 - 8:01am.
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Submitted by Wilbur on August 9, 2008 - 10:48am.

ARod and Manny get all the ink and airtime, but here's a little-remembered example of Scott Boras completely failing a client: Jeff Weaver. Weaver, you may recall, stunk for the Angels in 2006, and the Cardinals acquired him in mid-season. Working with Dave Duncan, Weaver somehow managed to make himself an effective pitcher in the Cardinals run to the World Championship, winning a game in each round of the playoffs.
After the 2006 season, Boras convinced Weaver to turn down the Cards' offer of two years at $7 million per year and opt for free agency. Weaver then found out that two months of capable pitching, after a couple of years of lousy pitching, does not make one a hot commodity. He settled for a one-year deal in Seattle...for $7 million. Halfway through that season he was released and is now out of baseball, at least $7 million poorer than if he hadn't spurned the chance to remain with the Cardinals, a winning franchise with a pitching coach known for turning around careers. Jeff Weaver's career is now over, so there's no telling how many millions Boras' advice cost him. As we know in KC, a .500 starter who can chew up innings is worth 8 figures a year. Boras bet Weaver's future, and lost. Of course, Boras has other clients, but Jeff Weaver had only one career.
One of the things to be said for taking guaranteed money from an organization is that the club is making an investment, and the club will be committed to making that investment pay off. Scott Boras can no doubt make an exciting promise to a client, but I'm guessing he's not making any guarantees.
Wilbur

Submitted by AxDxMx on August 8, 2008 - 3:38pm.

Let's say best case scenario for Hosmer. He goes to college and gets picked #1 overall his junior year. Let's look at the numbers. The Padres signed their #1 overall pick in 2004 for about $3M in bonus money. 4 years later we are around $6M. So let's see how this works out:

Sign now: $4M
Sign 3 years later, 1st overall: $12M?

Somehow I think a slotting system will be introduced before it comes to that. Let's assume for the sake of argument that half the increase will take place to $9M. It is a difference of $5M.

Take into account he will probably be in the minors for at least 1 year, probably 2, so he hits the majors about 5 years from now. If he signed now, he would probably spend 3 years in the minors. Now when does he get to the real salaried money? When arbitration hits after 3 full years. So tack on 3 to both numbers. He gets to arbitration in 8 years if he goes to college, 6 if he signs now.

So...

$4M now, arbitration in 6 years (age 24) or
$9M later, arbitration 8 years from now (age 26). You think maybe he could make up that $5M difference if he signs now and has 2 extra years to make money in the majors? I sure do. This is assuming he is a superstar of course. If he's a flop and flops in college he should definitely take the money now. Why throw away financial security? I mean what are the chances you actually get drafted that high again if you don't absolutely shine in college? Even if you are great, maybe there are still 10 guys better. Too many what ifs, take the guarantee!

Submitted by dfrench23 on August 8, 2008 - 3:05pm.

The difference between $4 mill and $6 mill is $2 million. HaHa.

Anyway, why is MLB so different than NFL and NBA when it comes to the draft? MLB players have longer careers, don't they? Why don't they slot their salaries and put in more incentive clauses based on performance?

Just my random thoughts and my humble opinion.

Submitted by dsmith84 on August 8, 2008 - 12:25pm.

How do all the guys on Moustakas' A-ball team feel when he's living large on his fat contract/signing bonus, and they are playing in the same league, putting up similar or better numbers (although only one guy who has played more games on his team has a better average, but its better by about 50 points) and they are living on the the "normal" A-Ball salary.
Do the guys at A-ball have more money than the guys at AA, since most of the A-ball guys are 1st or 2nd year players who maybe haven't burned through whatever signing bonus they got? Not that its that much for most draft picks... Aviles got what, $1000 for being a 7th round pick?

I think it'll be a last hours deal just like Moose was last year, but in the end I think Hosmer will sign. He'll instantly be one of our top-5 prospects, and I think the likelihood of improving (or even maintaining, as he would instantly be labeled as a "signability issues" guy) his draft stock is extremely low.

Submitted by AxDxMx on August 8, 2008 - 3:50pm.

They thought he was great last year in Idaho. The first thing they did was make him go buy a video game system for the clubhouse with his bonus money (I found this out through his uncle at Futures Night at Kauffman last September). As long as the guy isn't a total jerk, I don't think most of the players would even think about it. His uncle was a talkative fellow that told me lots of interesting things about him and their experience that I have since forgotten. But he came off as a decent kid.

Submitted by KSmatt on August 8, 2008 - 2:34pm.

I've always wondered where professional sports went wrong in regards to compensating recently drafted players. Before even stepping on the practice field or court, they are handed millions of dollars. I understand that these athletes have worked hard to reach this point in their lives and should be rewarded, but it is getting out of control. The worst is obviously with the NFL, and hopefully MLB will not reach that point. I highly doubt it will, but $7M is a lot to hand to a kid that has yet to prove himself at a professional level.

I too wonder what Moose's teammates felt at the beginning of the year when he was barely batting his weight but still cashing the big checks. Don't get me wrong, I don't blame the kids for taking the money. I just wish the situation wouldn't have reached the point we are at.

Submitted by steven5000 on August 8, 2008 - 12:07pm.

My understanding if we don't sign Hosmer, and pick a guy in next year's draft using the comp pick...that if we don't sign next year's comp pick, the pick is gone after that. So next year's guy has all the leverage, and he would know it. Could ask for the world. So we would have to settle on lower quality at that point.

Whatever Hosmer is asking for this year, would be low compared to next year.

Honestly, I think the kid should feel blessed to be in a position that he's in and not go crazy with demands. But if it was up to me, and I had to choose between a kid having an extra million and Walmart Glass having an extra million, I'd give it to the kid in a heartbeat.

Submitted by jonfmorse on August 8, 2008 - 11:28am.

The word from some people who know him was allegedly that he intends to sign, but is putting off doing anything about it until after the tournament (he'd be ineligible if he signed).

Submitted by jcblue42 on August 8, 2008 - 9:20am.

Here are some thoughts. What is the difference between $4M and $6M? That is a decision we would all love to have, take the 4 or hold out for the 6? This is what is wrong with baseball today, players don't play because they love the game anymore, they play for the money, the same can be said about any other Major League sport as well, "I love the game, love to play, BUT I want to get paid!!" What is to stop anyone from taking the money, playing a couple of years in the minors, not progressing like he wants to and then moving on to something else. If you had $4M in the bank and/or invested, with a return of 5% you could draw $200K a year and still have $4M in the bank!!!! What is the incentive to get better? I guess if you are really good you can play your way to A-Rod money, which in 10 years won't be anything. I remember when Brett became the first Royal to make a Million dollars/year, that was a big deal, now it's chump change.

How does this effect us as Royals fans? Just look across the parking lot at what King Carl has created, a stadium that used to be sold out and hard to get individual tickets (that you could afford), to a stadium that may not be sold out, that people can't afford to go to, that costs $25-35 to PARK, $25 to park your car in an 8 x 12 piece of asphalt. That is what is ridiculous.

I love baseball, always have, always will. Sign a contract, play the game, protect yourself and your family, and let's move on to rebuilding the franchise the way it once was.

Bleed Blue....jcblue42

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