Jose Guillen puts team on blast, so now what?

Well, we knew that was coming, didn't we?

Jose Guillen has a well-documented history of blowing up, and he's on a long-suffering team in the midst of a 10-game losing streak that's included a no-hitter and now back-to-back horrendous losses.

Frank Robinson, the Hall of Famer who managed Guillen in Washington and maintains a good relationship with him, warned me during spring training, "Oh, he'll blow up in a second."

Let's just say that Guillen has blown up during lesser valleys.

So I hope we can quickly get past the initial shock of Guillen dropping f-bombs in a frustrated postgame, and get to what I think is an important moment in the season: how the team reacts.

For instance, I think it's interesting that Guillen went out of his way to have Trey Hillman's back.

Big league ballplayers give a lot of respect to other big league ballplayers past and present. That translates to managers, too, and I heard some wonder how Hillman's track record --- never coached, managed or played in the big leagues --- would go over in a major league clubhouse.

By all accounts, Hillman is an abnormally hard worker, and that's another main thing major leaguers respect: hard work.

That part of it obviously got through to Guillen, who has never been shy about putting his managers or GMs on blast when he sees fit, and this would've been an easy time to do it if Guillen had those thoughts in his head.

After all, Hillman isn't done with his second full month as manager and he's already been through a seven-game losing streak and now this even longer one.

The fact that Guillen not only didn't try to crush Hillman, but went out of his way to show respect to Hillman, is interesting, I think important, and not to be ignored.

The other thing that's important here is that someone blasted the team, in public, f-bombs and surliness included, with a group of reporters around to record it.

The last 10 years or so could accurately be called the Mike Sweeney years, and Sweeney had some incredible seasons, an undeniable presence, and his personality absolutely permeated throughout the clubhouse.

Sweeney is hugs and smiles, church and charity, and nobody who's met him will say a bad thing about him as a man. He truly is one of the nicest and most genuine guys you could ever meet, in or out of sports.

But I'm not sure it's a bad thing that the dominant clubhouse personality is now a guy with a track record of helmet throwing and cussing.

This team is fighting a culture of losing that predates virtually everyone on the roster and in the front office. This isn't just a Tony Muser, milk-and-cookies thing.

Then again, as a man whose opinion I respect a great deal points out, there's a fine line between a leader who tries to get something going and being a guy who blames everyone else (though Guillen did include himself in the group that needs to do better).

When we did a story on Sweeney being with the A's during spring training, a Royals player told me, "Everyone knows how nice of a guy Sweeney is. Everybody knows that. But sometimes it can't just be smiles and jokes and nice. Sometimes you have to get in someone's face. I'm pretty sure that's something this team could've used more of."

This team just got a heavy dose of that.

Let's see how they react.

Submitted by Sam Mellinger on May 28, 2008 - 11:26pm.
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Submitted by JMGesling on May 29, 2008 - 2:04pm.

Just wanted to say I like seeing some emotion. i know its a long season, and playing with too much emotion can be physically taxing...but...if you care about winning, and want to win, you got to get mad, angry..frustrated...blow up occasionally. I am wiling to bet it happens much more then reported. I bet it happens more so behind closed doors.

Olivo and Guillen have so far made themselves the emotional leaders. Isn't it interesting that they are some of the newest Royals? and they are leading the emotion?

Submitted by JMGesling on May 29, 2008 - 5:22pm.

How about this for a change...

Butler gets sent back to Omaha with Aviles taking his spot. He's playing short tonight. This will be interesting.

Too bad for Billy, but He'll be fine. He's young and needs more seasoning. I expect him to be back in a month or two...after he tears AAA pitching up again.

Submitted by Nate Greene on May 29, 2008 - 10:26am.

Why pitch Soria for two innings during a couple of innings in a tie game the night before and risk burning him out for last night? Trey must have been thrilled to have the five run lead, and then in terror when he knew he needed Soria to close the door. He knew it was HIS FAULT that his closer was on the shelf.

Secondarily, attitude comes from the top down, even in a payroll and ego-heavy major league locker room. We discuss Guillen and his anger and Sweeney and his lack of it, as if they have to be the ones who sets the tone. I don't buy this. For some reason, I can't help but keep wondering what someone like Billy Martin (who I absolutely loathed but respected when he were alive, by the way), who was a great teacher, game manager and world-class bleep-hole, could do with this team if he were manager. What happened to the days of guys like Earl Weaver, Whitey, D. Howser, and others who could bring attitude to a team, not wait for someone else to gin it up?

I'm not tired of the losing; I'm tired of the 12-15 years of lackadaisacal resignment to the losing. I'm not surprised Guillen is P.O.'d. I'm surprised they're not all dropping F-bombs. And the truth is, I wish they would.

Submitted by bfos7215 on May 29, 2008 - 8:20am.

Guillen was right and it probably needed to be said.....just not from a guy who admitted to coming to AZ fat, lazy, and content with his big contract.

Submitted by toddjreynolds on May 29, 2008 - 7:28am.

I had my initial doubts, mostly because I'd heard about his tantrums with other teams. Then he got off to a horrendous start and he was booed at the K. But when he started to hit this month, and drive in runs like he's paid to do, I felt genuinely happy for him. After hearing his rant played back on the radio this morning, I'm starting to like this guy even more.

I noticed the defense of Hillman too, though I didn't think about what that meant as far as the respect he's earned in the clubhouse (which is why you're the sportswriter and I'm just commenting).

It's about time someone in that clubhouse showed some emotion. Between the bleeps I heard someone who really wants to win. The guy is passionate about the game, and to see it out in the open is refreshing. Besides that, it's always nice when someone else can articulate what you are feeling.

Submitted by jtuck123 on May 29, 2008 - 6:03am.

...that Jose Guillen continues to lay it on thick. I hope he will rattle cages and cuss out more people, and once, just once, I hope that he will break a bat over his knee...I wanna see it. I liked the "Mike Sweeney atmosphere" but when you can go on a 19 game losing streak and still be "Mike Sweeney-esque" about the whole thing, you know that Jose Guillen was meant to be here. I wish I would have watched the post-game stuff, or even heard it.
Maybe science and baseball can have something in common...The second law of thermodynamics says that every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Maybe these losing streaks we've grown accustom to will in the near future have their own "equal and opposite reactions"...
JT

Submitted by BigGuyDon on May 29, 2008 - 12:29pm.

Actually, that's Newton's third law of motion. Hopefully you are right and we'll have a large winning streak sometime soon.

The best law of physics pertaining to this team is the FIRST law of thermodynamics: matter and energy can be neither created nor destroyed. To paraphrase: you can't create something out of nothing (can't polish a turd, etc.).

The team has been mismanaged and neglected for too long for someone to make that big a change in a couple years. It takes 4-5 years for drafted players to become impact players in the majors. The players we have now are the result of the very few good decisions made under Baird and some magic trades of nothing for something (see Bannister for Burgos). But right now, we have no farm system, a power deficient roster and a pitching staff with a lot of talent that is still growing into itself. We're just not close to "there" yet.

Submitted by jtuck123 on May 30, 2008 - 9:08am.

You got me man...I was just guessing with the second...had no idea...thanks though...lol...
JT

Submitted by BGramm69 on May 29, 2008 - 6:42am.

False hope, JT.

I will never be fooled again by this organization. I bought into the hype. Won't make that mistake again. This is a loser organization, has been for dozens of years now. Losers from the front office to the players to the scouts to the farm system. It's pervasive, entrenched, all encompassing and, seemingly, eternal.

*pause*
*deep breath*
*sigh*

JUST WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR!!!

Submitted by jtuck123 on May 29, 2008 - 9:12am.

...dash my hopes why don't you? No one gave up on the Detroit Tigers...Anyone give up on the Tampa Bay Devil Rays? I'm not giving up on the Royals...When you've put your entire life into a baseball team,(all 21 years of it) you can't just give up...That's kinda like quitting and I'm not much of a quitter. I've been married for 2 and a half years and just because things get rough here and there doesn't mean I'm giving up on my marriage. I feel the same way about my boys in blue...
JT

Submitted by BGramm69 on May 30, 2008 - 6:35am.

You are right, of course. I've been a Royals fan ever since my dad took me to my first game, back in the days of the $3 general admission. Summer nights are spent on the back porch listening to the game. I still do it, only now I do it with a clenched fist and gritted teeth...because I get so damn angry.

Posnanski is right...we are being held hostage, and there's nothing the diehard Royals fan can do about it.

Quitting, as you say, is not an option.

Submitted by jtuck123 on May 30, 2008 - 9:10am.

...to come off rude there...I just wanted to express my frustration with the Royals...I know they can play better ball than what they're doing right now...This is sad. But, you watch, they'll turn it around...
JT

Submitted by BGramm69 on May 30, 2008 - 10:02am.

You weren't rude. You just haven't reached the frustration level yet that I have.

See, I no longer believe we will "turn it around". We've tried that...for 10 years. Now Moore is trying it again...and we're told to give him time. Again.

What's the saying from that crappy movie a few years back...."Why can't I quit the Royals!?"

Submitted by BGramm69 on May 29, 2008 - 6:01am.

I don't have the words to convey my frustration....I'm glad Guillen does.

I would clean house and start again. John Buck, Tony Pena, Mark Teahan, David Dejesus: All on the trading block. I'm tired of pretending like these are quality baseball players. No, only in Kansas City do these players SEEM serviceable.

You cannot win in this league without a shortstop and a catcher. We haven't had either in 20 years. There is no ray of hope, no silver lining...our young players don't develop, our veteran players don't produce, our farm system is a disaster. This organization sucks, and will suck for years to come.

Hmmm...maybe I lied when I said I didn't have the words to convey my frustration...

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