Six terrible lineups of Royals past that, in retrospect, should've been no-hit way before last night

(NOTE: sorry for the slight delay, but this one took a little more research than usual. Hopefully it's worth it.)

The Royals are not a good offensive team. We all know this. And it doesn't take a thing away from Jon Lester's no-hitter last night. It's just a fact.

The thing about no-hitters, nobody seems to remember or talk about who they were thrown against. They just remember the pitcher, and that's probably the way it should be.

Nationally, this will be remembered for Jon Lester, the cancer survivor, one of the guys the Red Sox refused to trade for Johan Santana.

But Royals fans will no doubt look at this with some shame, the night their offense couldn't even manage a hit.

No-hitters are hard to explain. The last batter for the Royals, Alberto Callaspo, swung at a fastball way out of the zone, which he hardly ever does. It was just his fourth strikeout this season, and his 24th in 244 major league at bats.

Again, the Royals offense is struggling, and probably will most of this season. But to be no-hit? Mark Grudzielanek is second in the American League in hitting. Jose Guillen is hitting around .500 the last week or so. Alex Gordon is coming around. Billy Butler hits line drives. David DeJesus is a tough out. And on.

Not to be Danny Downer here, but it's a little surprising the Royals hadn't been no-hit before (I'm talking recently, I know Nolan Ryan got 'em in 1973). Buddy Bell tempted fate quite often with some of the most prime-for-no-hit lineups in recent baseball history.

In Bell's defense, he wasn't exactly benching Hank Aaron, but this all got me thinking about some of the worst lineups in recent Royals history that, you know, did get a hit or three.

Which one's the worst?

The candidates:

July 4, 2004 against San Diego
Jose Bautista, 3b
Tony Graffanino, 2b
Ken Harvey, 1b
Ruben Mateo, cf
Angel Berroa, ss
Dee Brown, lf
Desi Relaford, rf
John Buck, c
Pitcher

On the list because: Ruben Mateo, he of the career .386 slugging percentage and 21 home runs in 876 at bats, hits cleanup. Actually, I'm not even sure there's enough space on the internet to get into why this lineup is so bad.

Result: six hits, and one run in the top of the ninth to pull within 7-1. David Wells, Blaine Neal and Ricky Stone needed a combined 99 pitches to get through nine innings. Using similar lineups, the Royals then go to Minnesota and don't score for three straight games. Damian Jackson DHed one of those games.

May 15, 2005, against Tampa Bay.
Angel Berroa, ss
David DeJesus, cf
Tony Graffanino, 1b
Emil Brown, rf
Matt Diaz, dh
Terrence Long, lf
Alberto Castillo, c
Mark Teahen, 3b
Joe McEwing, 2b

On the list because: the leadoff hitter had a .305 OBP that year, the No. 3 hitter had three homers, Matt Diaz DHed, and Alberto Castillo played.

Result: nine hits, four runs, against Mark Hendrickson and Seth McClung. Royals actually won this one, 4-3.

June 8, 2005, against San Francisco
Angel Berroa, ss
David DeJesus, cf
Tony Graffanino, 1b
Emil Brown, rf
Matt Diaz, lf
Mark Teahen, 3b
Ruben Gotay, 2b
Alberto Castillo, c
Pitcher

On the list because: similar lineup to the one above, but with the added bonus of including Ruben Gotay (.227/.288/.344) and the pitcher, who happened to be Runelvys Hernandez, a career oh-for-five hitter.

Result: nine hits, four runs against the gauntlet of Jeff Fassero, Scott Munter, Jason Christiansen, LaTroy Hawkins, and Scott Eyre. Royals won this one, too, 4-1, so maybe this lineup is the answer.

April 13, 2006, against the Yankees
Tony Graffanino, dh
Mark Grudzielanek, 2b
Emil Brown, lf
Reggie Sanders, rf
Angel Berroa, ss
John Buck, c
Doug Mientkiewicz, 1b
Esteban German, 3b
Shane Costa, cf

On the list because: Angel Berroa is hitting fifth in a season so bad (.234/.259/.333) it convinces the Royals he's no longer a major league ballplaer. It also has Graffanino as the DH.

Result: 10 hits and three runs, against Randy Johnson, Scott Proctor, Mike Myers, Tanyon Sturtze, and Ron Villone. Lost 9-3.

May 7, 2006, against the White Sox
Esteban German, 3b
Mark Grudzielanek, 2b
Tony Graffanino, 1b
Emil Brown, lf
Angel Berroa, ss
Aaron Guiel, rf
John Buck, c
Justin Huber, dh
Kerry Robinson, cf

On the list because: now we're getting into some real suckiness. How about a heart of the order of Graffanino-Emil-Berroa? And then you protect them with Aaron Guiel.

As an added bonus, was this the game that Robinson climbed the center field wall for a ball that bounced on the warning track?

Result: eight hits and two runs, against Mark Buehrle, Cliff Politte, Matt Thornton, Brandon McCarthy, and Bobby Jenks. Lost 3-2.

June 9, 2007, against the Phillies
David DeJesus, cf
Mark Grudzielanek, 2b
Mark Teahen, rf
Shane Costa, dh
Alex Gordon, 3b
John Buck, c
Ryan Shealy, 1b
Tony Pena, ss
Joey Gathright, lf

On the list because: Shane Costa is not only DHing, but batting cleanup. You had Ryan Shealy (.221/.286/.308) and Tony Pena (.267/.284/.356) hitting back-to-back.

Alex Gordon entered this game hitting .187, though this was right around the time he got going.

Gil Meche ran into some bad luck with run support last year, but he started this game and it's no accident he didn't get any runs.

Result: three hits, no runs, and 11 strikeouts, against Jon Lieber.

This is really the king of the bad lineups of the last few years, I think, and here might be the best argument: Lieber pitched a complete game three-hit shutout. He'd given up 10 runs in his previous two starts, and would give up 13 more in his next two before his season ended with an injury.

Submitted by Sam Mellinger on May 20, 2008 - 9:19am.
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Submitted by kpellow on May 27, 2008 - 11:13pm.

Those are some bad lineups Sam. I can't take it anymore. Had to cancel my mlb.tv subscription. It's time for a major shakedown. Dayton & Trey should make a statement that losing won't be tolerated anymore. Maier & Aviles are off to great starts in Omaha....would like to see what they can do. I'd pay to see this lineup:

LF Mitch Maier
2B Grudz
3B Gordon
DH Bonds
C Olivo
SS Mike Aviles
CF DeJesus
RF Guillen
1B Butler

I wonder if Bonds would sign a 1-month deal?

Submitted by crawford on May 21, 2008 - 11:35am.

Tony Graffanino, 2B
Carlos Beltran, CF
Juan Gonzalez, RF
Matt Stairs, DH
Ken Harvey, 1B
Kelly Stinnett, C
David DeJesus, LF
Mendy Lopez, 3B
Andres Blanco, SS

(i may lose because Beltran is there, but Harvey, Mendy, Stinnett and Blanco put this in the top ten at least)

Submitted by RoyalsRetro on May 21, 2008 - 10:36am.

Here's my submission, a game just a few days after one of the lineups you listed.

WARNING - DO NOT READ THIS IF YOU JUST ATE LUNCH

July 7, 2004

3B Desi Relaford
SS Angel Berroa
1B Ken Harvey
RF Matt Stairs
CF Ruben Mateo
LF Dee Brown
2B Tony Graffanino
C John Buck
DH Damien Jackson

Shockingly, this team lost 12-0, managing just six hits against ace Kyle Lohse.

Submitted by JMGesling on May 21, 2008 - 5:14am.

I know that everyone is loathing our offense right now, and is looking to blame someone (like Mike Barnett). However, I am never one to put blame on one person solely. I do know that Kevin Seitzer is still in the KC area. We all saw how well he did in his small stint at Arizona. I have also heard that he was part of the awakening of Raul Ibanez and Dye while they were in KC. Anyone think that perhaps his track record and history with KC would make him a good candidate for an adviser or instructor?

I kind of like the idea of staying within the family.

Submitted by RoyalsRetro on May 21, 2008 - 10:34am.

Wasn't he a huge failure there? There were near the bottom of the league in runs scored. Now, with much of the same personnel, they are near the top. Plus he was known for having too abrasive of a personality. If he had never played for the Royals, you wouldn't be considering him.

Submitted by JMGesling on May 21, 2008 - 5:15pm.

I remember an interview and story about him and his firing..it sounded like the players loved having him around. His efforts and teachings didn't come to fruition until the late season/next season. I could be wrong...just what I though I heard...

Submitted by jayhawkowensjunior on May 20, 2008 - 1:52pm.

One of my favorite things is for an article or something to jog my memory—hey, I forgot that guy was on the team. Like Jose Bautista. Check out the busy 2004 he had:
6/3/04 Waived by Orioles, picked up by Tampa Bay.
6/25/04 Purchased by the Royals
7/30/04 Traded to the Mets for Huber, and immediately traded again to Pittsburgh in the Kris Benson trade.

Also, does this not prove that Buddy Bell has no idea what he’s doing? I know sometimes he didn’t have a lot to work with, but Costa hitting fourth? There’s four or five guys in that lineup I’d rather have hit fourth. Including Grud.

Submitted by crawford on May 20, 2008 - 11:41am.

(at least Bell played Buck instead of Larue) OR (at least Bell didn't DH Larue).

There must be something fundamentally wrong with what they are teaching them at the plate in KC. Like if someone had the idea to not play a centerfielder or something and tried it for a while(years). It's hard to find a better sample group of players to analyze : a patient ex-A's line drive hitter, a super high school hitter, a college player of the year. They all morphed into the same impatient, powerless hitter at the plate.

Submitted by CMLachky on May 20, 2008 - 11:37am.

Thanks for reminding be that Ken Harvey was once considered the future of this franchise...and an outfield of Relaford-Mateo-Brown??

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

Submitted by Adrian Gabriel on May 20, 2008 - 10:16am.

Those are some bad lineups. But I don't think last night's no hitter is anything hang our head in shame about. These things can happen. Lester was on. What are you going to do?

Should this lineup have been no-hit by six Astros pitchers on June 11, 2003?

Alfonso Soriano, 2B
Derek Jeter, SS
Jason Giambi, DH
Jorge Posada, C
Robin Ventura, 3B
Hideki Matsui, CF
Todd Zeile, 1B
Raul Mondesi, RF
Juan Rivera, LF

Submitted by jtuck123 on May 20, 2008 - 11:28am.

I'd take that line-up in Powder Blue w/ white pants...(5 years ago)
JT

Submitted by crawford on May 20, 2008 - 11:43am.

Worst hitting by uni : we hit bad, like Greek tradgedy bad, when we wear the Monarchs unis. ugg.

Submitted by KCMaestro on May 20, 2008 - 9:57am.

We're all forgetting that the Royals recently came close to being no-hit in Minnesota. Mike Sweeney broke it up late in the game (maybe even in the top of the 9th?)

I don't know why I feel so embarrased right now as a Big Blue fan.

Todd from Big Foam Finger
www.bigfoamfinger.com

Submitted by CMLachky on May 20, 2008 - 11:45am.

Sweeney broke up Scott Baker's no-no bid in the ninth after the perfect game was dashed when John Buck walked the PA before.

I also think it was Sweeney's first AB in something like three months.

Submitted by KCMaestro on May 20, 2008 - 12:25pm.

Wasn't that also one of Sweeney's last series with the Royals? I also remember he was greeted with a round of boo's his next at bat the following day (presumably for breaking up the no-hitter).

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